Cracking down on extremism – The Rhetoric and the Reality

The Rise of IS (Islamic State) in Syria & Iraq has led our government to make many statements in the media about how they will confront extremism in our country – With Cameron’s pledge to bar re-entry to those fighting for IS in tatters because of ‘Human Rights’ laws, the following exchange of letters between myself and The Home Office via our local MP shows just how clueless and impotent they really are –

Al Quds 2014 - police and IHRC rep

Good morning John
I was present yesterday at the Al Quds Day parade in London, which started from BBC Radio headquarters in Duchess Street at 3pm and ended outside the US Embassy in Grosvenor Square, where speakers chanted their usual mix of anti-Western rhetoric, anti-Semitism and plain old fashioned racism.
In previous years, I have put in official complaints about the parade under section 5 of the Public Order Act and also for breaches of the Terrorism Act 2000.
Once again, marchers carried flags of the banned organisation Hisbollah in breach of the Anti-Terror legislation. I brought this to the attention of the Police – The first officer I spoke with asked one of the marchers to take it down and was immediately confronted and intimidated by stewards of the IHRC (Islamic Human Rights Commission), This brought out one of the more senior officers, noticeable by his white shoulder bars (Number XXXX) who I repeated the issue to.
This officer said he was not prepared to take any action, despite admitting that a clear breach of the law was being carried out. He advised me that I should put in a complaint through proper channels after the event.
When it was pointed out to him that I have done this numerous times before, and that a reply from the Home Office stated that it was down to the officers on the ground at the event to take action, he advised me that he had other concerns and that any unnecessary arrests or action could trigger disorder that he did not have enough officers to cope with.
He then took my details for ‘further correspondence’
In effect, the Police have admitted that they are unable to carry out their duties on the streets of London for fear of aggression from Islamist Extremists.
Al Quds 2014 - Ladies with HB flags
I have attached some photo’s from the events that clearly show Hisbollah flags and banners, children being indoctrinated and banners of the original patron of the march, Ayatollah Khomeini . There are also some photos from previous years which show the annual breaking of the law, for which I have yet to have a sensible reply from the Met (This year’s photos are marked 2014)
I have also added a link below from my friend ‘Esme’ of the New England review, who covered the march once again this year, to give you further background
The below is coverage with video of the 2011 event – I made an official complaint about Shabbir Rizvi and his use of openly racist rhetoric about President Obama under Nelson’s Column and in the presence of the Police. All I got was a section 15 dispersal notice and kicked off the square by the Met and no response whatsoever from the powers that be, I wonder what would have happened if I had used such terms about, say, Chukka Umunna?
Whilst I am very much in favour of free speech and the right to peaceful protest, this march has for years been breaking numerous laws of the land whilst the Police either turn a blind eye or are openly complicit.
In the wake of the recently revealed ‘Trojan horse’ schools plot, the murder on our streets of Drummer Lee Rigby and the 7/7 bombings, I find it increasingly hard to understand why these marchers are allowed to openly break the law and encourage further radicalisation amongst the community.
Your thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated
Al Quds 2014 - HB placards
To Sir John Randall’s credit, he followed up on this and I received a response from the Home Office by letter as follows –
From – The Rt Hon Mike Penning – Minister of State for Policing, Criminal Justice and Victims
Thank you for your letter of 31 July to The Home Secretary on behalf of Mr Cliff Dixon of ……… about the Al Quds Day Parade in London. I am replying as the Minister for Policing, Criminal Justice and Victims.
The right to peaceful protest is a vital part of a democratic society. It is a long-standing tradition in this country that people are free to gather together and to demonstrate their views provided that they do so within the law. There is of course, a balance to be struck between protecting the rights of those undertaking lawful activities and the rights of demonstrators.
The role of the police in controlling demonstrations is to preserve the peace, to uphold the law and to prevent the commission of offences. Police tactics and decisions on how to achieve these objectives are a matter for the independent operational judgement of chief officers of police.
I hope that this addresses the issues raised by Mr Dixon
Note a lot of talk of freedom of speech and nothing about breaches of the law – Funny how that ‘freedom of speech’ was not extended to Paul Weston, leader of the Political Party Liberty GB, when he quoted from Churchill’s book ‘The River War’ and was arrested and charged under Section 5 of The Public Order Act because the verses read out contained criticism of a religion other than Judaism or Christianity
I sent the following reply by letter today –

Al Quds 2014 - Khomeini banner


Thank you for the response to my enquiry that was submitted via my local MP, Sir John Randall, who I have asked to pass this further letter on to you.


In your reply to my initial letter (copy enclosed), you have stated that the right to peaceful protest is a vital part of a democratic society, which I strongly agree with. However, you go to state ‘It is a long standing tradition in this country that people are free to gather together and to demonstrate their views provided that they do so within the law’

In my initial letter, I point out (with photographic and links for video evidence) that there were numerous breaches of the law carried out not just at this year’s Al Quds event but also at previous years events that were ignored by Officers on duty.



Amongst those offences were –


1 – The display of Hizbollah flags, which is a criminal offence under the Terrorism Act 2000 (Proscription offences include wearing clothing or carrying articles in public which arouse reasonable suspicion that an individual is a member or supporter of the proscribed organisation)

2 – Racist comments directed towards the US President in 2012 by Shabbir Rizvi – A breach of Section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986 and The Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006

3 – Blatant anti-semitic speeches from a number of speakers including Lauren Booth and Abdul Wahid which are breaches of The Public Order Act 1986, Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1998 and The Crime & Disorder Act of 1998.



You further state, ‘The role of the Police in controlling demonstrations is to preserve the peace, to uphold the law and to prevent the commission of offences’

Your Officers have failed to uphold the law and prevent the commission of offences by their own admission – Officer XXXX admitted that criminal offences were taking place but refused to act because he was concerned that it could trigger public order issues.

Indeed, I witnessed a senior officer at this year’s event (Chief Inspector XXXXX XXXXXXXX) viewing a procession of Hizbollah flags and listening to anti-semitic chanting without making any attempt to discourage it.


You go on to state that ‘Police tactics and decisions on how to achieve these objectives are a matter for the independent operational judgement of chief officers of Police’


Bearing in mind the events of previous years and the complaints put in about persistent breaches of the law, I would have to question whether the operational decisions made to police this march were sound.

The officers on the ground were fearful of carrying out their duties in case it triggered violence, and conveyed to me that they did not have the numbers to deal with the crowd if they turned hostile.



In view of the current situation regarding Islamist extremism in this country, and the repeated statements of both Home Secretary Teresa May and Prime Minister David Cameron that they will ‘crack down’ on radical groups who poison vulnerable young minds, I find the refusal to act on the part of the Metropolitan Police disturbing.


I await your reply concerning the breaches of the law committed and if any further action will be forthcoming




The government have been happy to use the mentioned acts against legitimate protest on a variety of occasions – The refusal to act on the law of the land when genuine transgressions are being committed by groups or persons intent on harm to our society makes a mockery of the Home Office call for additional powers to deal with terrorism and extremist groups. This inaction by the government and the Police will not stand


NB – The views expressed in this article are those of the author, and do not necessarily represent the views or policy of The UK Independence Party (UKIP)





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